Talk:Fábio Carvalho (footballer, born 2002)

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group (assessed as Low-importance).

England Low‑importance

	England portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject England, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EnglandWikipedia:WikiProject EnglandTemplate:WikiProject EnglandEngland-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Football: England Low‑importance

	Association football portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Association football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FootballWikipedia:WikiProject FootballTemplate:WikiProject Footballfootball articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	English football portal This article is supported by the English football task force (assessed as Low-importance).

On 27 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Fábio Carvalho. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Not a British citizen?

I appreciate the fix, Mattythewhite, concerning the Daily Express. I did some looking, and apparently more reliable outlets have picked up the story (links at the bottom of this comment). I wanted to get other people's opinions about what to do with this, though. Given that he does not appear to be a British citizen at all—that he has yet to complete the citizenship process, not just that he does not have a passport—it would follow that he is only a Portuguese footballer, as that is the only nation for which he is eligible to play internationally. I don't want to change the lede, though, as this story is new and the original source is/was questionable. Links: 1) Daily Mail—https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10628225/England-call-Fulham-star-Carvalho-passport-issues-lose-Palaces-Olise.html 2) Mirror—https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-fulham-carvalho-portugal-england-26492304 Anwegmann (talk) 21:56, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Anwegmann: Considering he has played internationally for a country other than that of his birth, and that has citizenship status hasn't been ascertained, I would say that nationality should be omitted from the opening sentence of the lead, as is standard practice in cases like this in football biographies.

Regarding the links you've cited, the Daily Mail has been depreceated and "its use as a reference is generally prohibited", per WP:DAILYMAIL, and there is no consensus as to the reliability of the Daily Mirror, per WP:DAILYMIRROR. As it is a tabloid publication, we should seek a better quality source, especially when we're talking about content on a WP:BLP. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:34, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 05:40, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– Clear primary topic with 96% of pageviews. Additionally, proposing alternative disambiguators to year of birth. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 21:38, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose I'm not really convinced he's done anything to be PRIMARY by long-term significance. Also, not a fan of the mixed disambiguators.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. Giant Snowman 15:12, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - no PRIMARYTOPIC, and anyway the proposed alternative moves show deep ignorance, positions and nationalities are fluid, YOBs are not and that is why they are always preferred. Giant Snowman 15:18, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the second and third points per GiantSnowman, depending on how popular the Liverpool footballer is in the future, the first point may be supported either now or at a future date. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per GiantSnowman. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 13:30, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No primary topic and YOB is standard disambiguation for footballers. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:27, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.